Transcript: Michelle Malkin on Fox & Friends
May 4, 2006 – 7:56 amMichelle was on Fox & Friends this morning to discuss Reconquista.
Political Pit Bull has video here.
Hot Air has the video too.
Steve Doocy: Some Mexicans say they deserve an open border because they claim the United States took their land and the Mexicans want it back. This movement is called, and I’m not making it up, it’s called the Reconquista.
Brian Kilmeade: And you know it, to someone who knows you’re not making it up is Michelle Malkin. She talks about this crusade and she is a Fox News contributor with a heck of a blog and a heck of a website [Michelle Malkin and Hot Air - Ed.]
Michelle, first off, tell me about this movement. And it isn’t just a niche, is it just a niche group with a bunch of people who don’t want to let go of something?
Michelle Malkin: Well, a lot of people have been under the impression that this Reconquista movement is a fringe, intellectual, fantasy. But they’ve been around a long time, for decades actually, and in a lot of community colleges and universities there are professors who have been plying this idea that the Southwest was “stolen” from Mexico and that Mexicans ought to rightly, rightfully reclaim it for a long time. There are a lot of chapters of a student group called MEChA who believe this and I debated one of these young students just the other day and its as fresh as it was in the 1960’s and the indignent and the extreme nature of it has not died down. We saw that on Monday at the May Day rally even though the mainstream media didn’t want to show it.
Steve Doocy: Even though the mainstream media today is admitting ‘yeah, Monday probably fizzled in many respects.’ Go back an talk a little bit about this outfit called MEChA which is predominately students but this is a racist outfit.Michelle Malkin: Oh plainly Steve. They are ethnic separatists and in some cases some of the more radical groups have websites that advocate genocide of Europeans and anyone who’s non-Mexican, who’s in what they consider “their” land, the “stolen” lands of Texas, Arizona, and California, all the way up to Washington in some cases. They disseminate maps that show the territory that they claim was stolen. On Monday there were many signs and banners plying this idea and this kind of propoganda.
E.D. Hill: Michelle, well the first part of this I don’t get is when you talk about Texas, who do they want to give it back to? The Spanish? The French? The Confederacy? The State of Texas? Or Mexico? When you start with that, who really has claim to it? But second, if they want to “reclaim” this land, why are they here in America where they want our benefits and our jobs, yet they want to take the land and put it back in Mexico and then what? Sneak into Idaho?
Michelle Malkin: {laughs} The whole thing is absurd E.D. and you point out a lot of the historical ridiculousness of it because as a lot of these people who adhere to this idea of Aztlan, which is what they consider their territory, skip over the fact that…
E.D. Hill: It wasn’t theirs…
Michelle Malkin: …they did sign a treaty, called the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and Mexico received millions of dollars in settlement money for this. So the history is ridiculous, but also the ramifications of it I think are really serious. They consider this not a country. They do not respect our sovereignty and the ultimate agenda of a lot of these pro-illegal alien advocates who are now pushing for amnesty is to obliterate our borders. And in many cases, if you think about it, they have succeeded by sheer demographic and political force they have erased the borders between the U.S. and Mexico. They’ve accomplished their goal.
Brian Kilmeade: Michelle, but here’s the thing. Some people listening to this say, ‘I’ve never met anybody that thinks that Texas belongs to Mexico or that the 1846 agreement didn’t happen, so, what do you say to those people? Even though you’ve debated one student, what makes us think that it’s more than just a thousand people in this country who feel that way?
Michelle Malkin:: I would say ‘Open your eyes and open your ears.’ When you have mainstream reporters, in one case a Fox reporter in Los Angeles…
E.D. Hill: I saw that.
Michelle Malkin: …plying this kind of stuff. When you’ve got professors and students and signs being held up all over this country it’s not just a fringe movement in Los Angeles for example. You’ve got people in Albuquerque and people in Milwaukee saying this is stolen land, that America is a continent, not a country. I think that you can’t dismiss this and you’ve got to understand the intellectual underpinnings of this push for amnesty to know what it’s about.
E.D. Hill: “We didn’t cross the borders, the border crossed us’
Michelle Malkin: You heard that everywhere.
E.D. Hill: Yeah, I know.
Steve Doocy: It was inevitable. Now those poor aliens are victims. All right. Michelle Malkin, Fox News contributor and syndicated columnist and an all around smart gal.
E.D. Hill: Michelle, what’s your website again? Some folks don’t get your syndicated column.
Michelle Malkin: Hey thanks, I’ve got two. It’s MichelleMalkin.com and HotAir.com and we’ve got tons of pictures…
Steve Doocy: Hey, wait a minute… we wanted HotAir.com…
E.D. Hill: HotAir.com is your new website and very good.
Michelle Malkin: Thank you.
Steve Doocy: Take it easy.
E.D. Hill: We should have gotten HotAir.com…
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[...] Kimsch at Musing Minds has published a transcipt of Michelle Malkin’s “Reconquista #101″ interview on this morning’s Fox and Friends. Michelle challenges head on those who would dismiss this movement as “a fringe, intellectual fantasy.” Steve Verdon has put up a post at Outside the Beltway that is a good example of this very thing – i.e., painting Michelle as one with a propensity “to manufacture outrage.” He goes on to say that “Malkin has completely failed to demonstrate her point.” [...]
Where did you actually get this transcript?
It looks remarkably similar to one I posted on
our blog News Hounds.
However, mine was more fun to read.
I’ve reprinted it below.
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Marie Therese
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Malicious Michelle Malkin Mauls Mexicans
Reported by Marie Therese - May 05, 2006
Yesterday morning, FOX & Friends scheduled an appearance by Michelle Malkin, the xenophobic author, columnist and blogger. She joined Steve Doocy, E. D. Hill and Brian Kilmeade to make unsubstantiated claims that many of the Mexicans marching in last Monday’s marches favored a radical idea called “reconquista” that claims that the states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Wyoming, California, Oregon and Washington really belong to Mexico.
The transcript of this interview follows. (The video is available on FOXNews.com.) Taking a cue from the President’s “doppelganger” routine at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, I have added “translations” of the comments for added clarity (and, hopefully, a chuckle or two.)
STEVE DOOCY: Some Mexicans say that they deserve an open border because they claim that the United States (slaps his knee) took their land and the Mexicans want it back. This movement is called - I’m not makin’ it up - it’s called reconquista.
(Translation: Hey, guys, did you see how well I translated “some people say” into Mexicano?)
BRIAN KILMEADE: And someone who knows you’re not makin’ it up is Michelle Malkin. She talks about this crusade and she is a FOX News contributor with a heck of a blog and a heck of a website. Michelle, now, first off, tell me about this movement and is it just a - is it just a niche group or a bunch of people who don’t want to let go of something?
(Translation: The legal department says we’re skating on thin ice here, since our guest is about to fool our viewers into believing that there are hundreds of thousands of these radicals, when, in point of fact, there are really only about a thousand people who believe that California, Texas and Arizona belong to Mexico. To paraphrase the bible story, we’re feeding the masses five loads of bull using two fishy stories!)
CHRYON: WHAT ARE THE IMMIGRATION MARCHES REALLY SAYING?
MICHELLE MALKIN: Well, a lot of people have been under the impression that this reconquista is a fringe intellectual fantasy, but they’ve been around for a long time, for decades actually, and in a lot of community colleges and universities, there are professors who have been plying this idea that the Southwest was stolen from Mexico and that Mexicans ought to rightly - rightfully - reclaim it. For a long time there were a lot of chapters of a student group called MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán ) who believe this and I debated one of these young students just the other day and it’s as fresh as it was in the 1960s and the indignance (sic) and the extreme nature of it has not died down and we saw that Monday at the May Day rally even though the mainstream media didn’t want to show it.
(Translation: I sure hope none of the FOX viewers know anything about history! Otherwise, they’ll realize what a load of BS this whole interview is!)
DOOCY: Yeah, even though the mainstream media is admitting, yeah, Monday probably fizzled a bit in many respects, go back and talk about this outfit called MEChA, which is predominantly students, but this is a racist outfit.
(Translation: All of FOX News’ shows have reported that Monday’s marches fizzled.)
CHRYON: MICHELLE MALKIN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR
MALKIN: Oh, oh, plainly, Steve, they are ethnic separatists.
(Translation: MEChA is racist because it is affiliated with the group La Raza, which means “race” and this clearly shows that they are racist because only people who are racists use the word “race” when describing themselves.)
CHRYON: WHAT ARE THE IMMIGRATION MARCHES REALLY SAYING?
MALKIN: And in some cases some of the more radical groups have websites that advocate genocide of Europeans and anyone who’s non-Mexican who’s in what they consider “their” land, the stolen lands of Texas, Arizona and California, all the way up to Washington in some cases.
(Translation: Isn’t it nice that on the FOX News Channel opinion IS truth? No annoying questions about my sources and documentation. Whew! That leaves me off the hook one more time!)
CHRYON: U. S. OBTAINED MEXICAN LAND IN U.S.-MEXICAN WAR [1846]
MALKIN: … In some cases they disseminate maps that show the territory they claim was stolen …
(Translation: Handing out maps of the layout of the United States before the year 1848 is sinister, threatening, frightening, subversive and must be reported immediately to the Homeland Security Department!)
E.D. HILL: Michelle …
MALKIN: … and on Monday [May 1, 2006] there were many signs and banners …
(Translation: Actually there were about 10 signs and one banner scattered throughout the country and I must admit that I’m really upset that our staff had to do all the work to uncover them! Just like that elitist mainstream media to leave all the hard work to us! )
CHRYON: RECONQUISTA IS THE RE-CONQUEST OF SOUTHWEST U.S. BY MEXICO
VIDEO CLIPS OF SHADOWY FIGURES CROSSING THE BORDER, INCLUDING MOTHER & CHILD RUNNING AND A LONG LINE OF PEOPLE STANDING THREE AND FOUR DEEP WITH THEIR HANDS (MANY HANDCUFFED) PLACED ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE PERSON AHEAD OF THEM.
MALKIN: … applying this kind of idea and this kind of propaganda.
CHRYON: SOME MEXICANS THINK THE U.S. WRONGLY TOOK THEIR LAND
HILL: Well, the first part of it I don’t get is when you’re talking about Texas, who do they want to give it back to? The Spanish? The French? The Confederacy? The State of Texas? Or, you know …
CHRYON: M.E.C.H.A.: STUDENT MOVEMENT CHICANO OF AZTLAN
MALKIN: Yeah, right.
HILL: Or Mexico? Well, when you start with that, who really has claim to it?
(Translation: Wow! It was really hard memorizing all those history index cards this morning! Good thing it’s also typed onto my laptop screen!)
MALKIN: Well.
HILL: But, second, if they want to reclaim this land, then why are they here in America, where they want our benefits and our jobs, yet they want to take the land and put it back to Mexico and then - what? Sneak into Idaho?
(Translation: Rats! I’m gonna have to get a new housecleaner. That ungrateful Maria Gonzales wants a raise!)
CHRYON: AZTLAN IS AREA OF SW U.S. OR, CA, TX, AZ & NM
VIDEO CLIP OF MAY 1, 2006 MARCHERS, SHOWING AMERICAN FLAGS JUXTAPOSED AGAINST A SIGN THAT SAYS “HEALTH CARE FOR ALL”
MALKIN (laughing): The whole thing is absurd, E.D. and you point out a lot of the historical ridiculousness of it because a lot of the people that adhere to this idea of Aztlan, which is what they consider their territory …
(Translation: Gee I’m glad E. D. actually got through all that history. She was really having trouble with those index cards in the Green Room this morning!)
HILL: Yeah.
MALKIN: … skip over the fact that, you know …
HILL: It wasn’t theirs.
CHYRON: WHAT ARE THE IMMIGRATION MARCHES REALLY SAYING?
MALKIN: … that they did sign a treaty. It was called the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and Mexico received millions of dollars in settlement money for this so the history if ridiculous, but also just the ramifications of it, I think, are really serious. They consider this not a country. They do not respect our sovereignty and the ultimate agenda of a lot of these pro-illegal alien advocates, who are now pushing for amnesty, is to obliterate our border and, in many cases, if you think about it, they have succeeded ….
DOOCY: Um-hmm.
MALKIN: … by sheer demographic and political force they have erased the borders between U. S. and Mexico. They’ve accomplished their goal.
(Translation: Thankfully the FOX viewers don’t realize that there are respected economists who believe that in order to compete with China and the European Union, we’re going to have to open both borders and form a North American market with a common currency.)
KILMEADE: Michelle, but here’s the thing. Some people listening to this say “Well, I’ve never met anybody who thinks that Texas belongs to Mexico” or that the 1846 agreement didn’t happen. So, what do you say to those people? Even though you’ve debated one student what makes us think that it’s more than just a thousand people in this country who feel that way?
MALKIN: I would say open your eyes and open your ears. I mean, when you have mainstream reporters - in one case a FOX reporter in Los Angeles …
HILL (incredulous): Right. I saw that!
(Translation: Yeah and that guy’s days on FOX are numbered!)
MALKIN: … plying this kind of stuff - when you’ve got professors and students and signs being held up all over this country, it’s not just a fringe movement in Los Angeles, for example.
VIDEO CLIPS APPEAR. AERIAL SHOT OF THOUSANDS OF MARCHERS, A LARGE AMERICAN FLAG BEING CARRIED.
DOOCY: Right.
MALKIN: You’ve got people in Albuquerque and people in Milwaukee …
DOOCY: Um-hmm.
MALKIN: … saying this is stolen land, that America is a continent, not a country …
DOOCY: Right.
MALKIN: … I think you can’t dismiss this …
HILL: Yeah.
VIDEO CLIP FAST ZOOM TO A LARGE BLUE AND WHITE SIGN SAYING “SUPPORT IMMIGRANT RIGHTS!”
CHYRON STILL READS: WHAT ARE THE IMMMIGRATION MARCHES REALLY SAYING?
MALKIN: … and I think you’ve got to understand the intellectual underpinnings of this push for amnesty …
HILL: Right.
MALKIN: … to know what it’s about.
HILL: “We didn’t cross the border, the borders crossed us.”
(Translation: Boy am I glad Bill O’Reilly interviewed that loony toon labor activist Dolores Huerta the other night. If he hadn’t I would have known about this quote of hers. What a goldmine for our side!)
DOOCY: It was just …
MALKIN: You hear that everywhere!
HILL: Well, Michelle, you know …
DOOCY (sarcastic tone): It was inevitable. Now those poor aliens are victims. (normal tone of voice): Alright. Michelle Malkin, FOX contributor and a syndicated columnist and an alright - all ’round smart gal …
HILL: Michelle, what’s your website again because folks don’t get your syndicated column?
(Translation: You pat my back. I’ll pat yours.)
MALKIN: Hey, I’ve got two. It’s MichelleMalkin.com and HotAir.com and we’ve got tons of pictures that talk (sic) about it.
(Translation: Sell! Sell! Sell!)
COMMENT
Malkin completely misrepresented MEChA during this interview. Along with a number of other anti-Mexican authors and sites she references on her own website, she misled FOX’s viewers with half truths and innuendo aided and abetted by the F&F trio..
Allegations similar to those made by Malkin were made on the Stanford University campus in 2003. Gabriela Rico, a member of MEChA, wrote an effective rebuttal to the Stanford Review:
MEChA leadership has re-affirmed that they do not adhere to El Plan de Aztlan, drafted during the radicalized 1960s (once again, check the context). MEChA offers campuses a national network of Chicano/Latino students working towards improving their community. As a Mechista at Stanford, I spent most of my time forming multi-cultural coalitions (in and of itself a rebuttal against any accusations of being separatist, segregationist, or racist) with student organizations such as SLAC, SEAS, and SOCC for workers’ rights, affirmative action, and other campaigns encouraging diversity on the Stanford campus. As a Mechista at Stanford, I spent many hours doing community service work such as getting out the vote during elections, raising funds for scholarships benefiting the children of farm-workers, and tutoring/mentoring disadvantaged youth of different racial backgrounds. As a Mechista, I formed relationships with a diverse network of genuinely humane, compassionate, anti-racist activists, which made my Stanford experience enriching and invaluable. As a Stanford Mechista, I take offense to any accusations that this progressive student organization with social justice matters at the heart of its nature is ‘racist’ or even remotely related to the KKK.
MEChA’s motto is “La Union Hace La Fuerza,” which means “Unity builds Strength.” Stanford MEChA brought the Stanford community El Centro Chicano, Casa Zapata, the Stanford Center for Research on Chicana/o Studies, Comparative Studies in Race and Ethnicity, the recruitment and retention of Chicana/o faculty and students, numerous community-wide cultural events, political education on issues affecting the Chicano/Latino community, and an array of other pro-diversity campaigns. Most recently, Stanford MEChA worked to increase Community Center funding and to gain an Alternative Spring Break trip exposing Stanford students to farm-worker issues. Stanford MEChA has made invaluable contributions to the Stanford community and your editorial threatens to divert the support of its fellow student groups.
Actually Marie Therese, I transcribed it myself. I hope you are not accusing me of plagiarism as I just used the broadcast as my source and it is easily checked as to what was actually said. Your version may be “funnier” but mine was done without all the editorializing…
just another little note Marie Therese - since I published my transcription the day of the interview, a full day before you published yours, perhaps the any similarity is yours to mine rather than mine to yours.
Gehardt Reich, a member of The White Association (the Whitists), wrote an effective rebuttal to the Stanford Review:
Whitist leadership has re-affirmed that they do not adhere to NAZI racial purity ideology, drafted during the radicalized 1930s (once again, check the context). Whitists offer campuses a national network of White/Arian students working towards improving their community. As a Whitist at Stanford, I spent most of my time forming multi-cultural coalitions (in and of itself a rebuttal against any accusations of being separatist, segregationist, or racist) with student organizations such as SLAC, SEAS, and SOCC for workers’ rights, affirmative action for Whites, and other campaigns encouraging diversity on the Stanford campus. As a Whitist at Stanford, I spent many hours doing community service work such as getting out the vote during elections, raising funds for scholarships benefiting the white children, and tutoring/mentoring disadvantaged youth of different racial backgrounds. As a Whitist, I formed relationships with a diverse network of genuinely humane, compassionate, anti-racist activists, which made my Stanford experience enriching and invaluable. As a Stanford Whitist, I take offense to any accusations that this progressive student organization with social justice matters at the heart of its nature is ‘racist’ or even remotely related to the KKK.
The White Association’s motto is “Einheit errichtet Stärke,” which means “Unity builds Strength.” Stanford Whitists brought the Stanford community The Center for Whites, Caucasian House, the Stanford Center for Research on White Studies, Comparative Studies in Race and Ethnicity, the recruitment and retention of White faculty and students, numerous community-wide cultural events, political education on issues affecting the White community, and an array of other pro-diversity campaigns. Most recently, Stanford Whites worked to increase Community Center funding and to gain an Alternative Spring Break trip exposing Stanford students to issues effecting oppressed Whites. Stanford Whites has made invaluable contributions to the Stanford community and your editorial threatens to divert the support of its fellow student groups.
WE REPORT. YOU DECIDE.
dung.
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